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tinker board S won't boot after 2 years use
#1
I have a tinkerboard S running Openhab that has been running fine for 2 years or so.  It shut down the other day and won't boot now.  If I connect to a PC running Windows 10 or Linux the eMMC is not recognized, nothing is visible.  I tried booting from and SD card by setting the MASKROM but nothing happens.  I have it connect to a monitor via HDMI cable and there is never any signal.  I have tried a brand new cable that is certified for power and syncing. I have searched the forums and can't find any other troubleshooting ideas so before I give up on it I thought I would post this and see if anyone has an idea I haven't tried yet. I would really like to get at the data on the eMMC if I can.  I don't have a very recent backup...my bad I know!
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#2
Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?
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#3
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.
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#4
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.
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#5
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Sorry I wasn't clear.

As I said, connecting the micro usb to the LInux PC nothing shows up on lsusb.

When I connect the micro usb to a power block (5V, 3A the same one it ran with for 2 years) and then connect one of the 4 USB ports on the Tinkerboard to the linux laptop that is when the two entries show up in the lsusb output that I mention above.

Jason
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#6
(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Sorry I wasn't clear.

As I said, connecting the micro usb to the LInux PC nothing shows up on lsusb.

When I connect the micro usb to a power block (5V, 3A the same one it ran with for 2 years) and then connect one of the 4 USB ports on the Tinkerboard to the linux laptop that is when the two entries show up in the lsusb output that I mention above.

Jason

Do you mean there is nothing more displayed by running lusb on Linux PC when you connect Tinker Board S to Linux PC via micro USB cable?
Then you powered up the board by connecting Tinker Board S to a power adapter via micro USB. After that, you connect the type A receptacle on Tinker Board S to the type A receptacle of Linux PC. You can see the following 2 more displayed by running lsusb on Linux PC? 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

This is strange. Could you let me know how you connect the type A on Tinker Board S to the type A on Linux PC? Or I misunderstood anything?

Leslie
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#7
(11-24-2020, 05:39 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:02 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Was the red LED turned on when you tried to power on the board?

Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote: Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Sorry I wasn't clear.

As I said, connecting the micro usb to the LInux PC nothing shows up on lsusb.

When I connect the micro usb to a power block (5V, 3A the same one it ran with for 2 years) and then connect one of the 4 USB ports on the Tinkerboard to the linux laptop that is when the two entries show up in the lsusb output that I mention above.

Jason

Do you mean there is nothing more displayed by running lusb on Linux PC when you connect Tinker Board S to Linux PC via micro USB cable?
Then you powered up the board by connecting Tinker Board S to a power adapter via micro USB. After that, you connect the type A receptacle on Tinker Board S to the type A receptacle of Linux PC. You can see the following 2 more displayed by running lsusb on Linux PC? 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

This is strange. Could you let me know how you connect the type A on Tinker Board S to the type A on Linux PC? Or I misunderstood anything?

Leslie

You almost have it right.  I don't have a Type A Male to Type A male cable so I went Type A Male into the Tinkerboard and then Micro USB into what I believe is called a Lightning port on  the laptop.  I am picking up an adapter so I can go into the Type A port on the laptop.  I should have it sometime tomorrow.

Jason
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#8
(11-24-2020, 10:23 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-24-2020, 05:39 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:45 AM)jsunwalters Wrote: Yes as soon as I power on the board the red LED comes on and stays on. No other colors come on.

Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Sorry I wasn't clear.

As I said, connecting the micro usb to the LInux PC nothing shows up on lsusb.

When I connect the micro usb to a power block (5V, 3A the same one it ran with for 2 years) and then connect one of the 4 USB ports on the Tinkerboard to the linux laptop that is when the two entries show up in the lsusb output that I mention above.

Jason

Do you mean there is nothing more displayed by running lusb on Linux PC when you connect Tinker Board S to Linux PC via micro USB cable?
Then you powered up the board by connecting Tinker Board S to a power adapter via micro USB. After that, you connect the type A receptacle on Tinker Board S to the type A receptacle of Linux PC. You can see the following 2 more displayed by running lsusb on Linux PC? 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

This is strange. Could you let me know how you connect the type A on Tinker Board S to the type A on Linux PC? Or I misunderstood anything?

Leslie

You almost have it right.  I don't have a Type A Male to Type A male cable so I went Type A Male into the Tinkerboard and then Micro USB into what I believe is called a Lightning port on  the laptop.  I am picking up an adapter so I can go into the Type A port on the laptop.  I should have it sometime tomorrow.

Jason

I connected Type A on the laptop to Type A on the Tinkerbox and lsusb shows nothing. The Tinkerboard doesn't show up.

Jason
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#9
(11-25-2020, 10:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-24-2020, 10:23 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-24-2020, 05:39 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 03:51 AM)leslie_yu Wrote: Could you try to connect the board to a Linux PC via micro USB cable? Let's see if the board can boot into UMS mode and recognized by PC.
You can also try lsusb on PC to see what is recognized there.

I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote: I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Sorry I wasn't clear.

As I said, connecting the micro usb to the LInux PC nothing shows up on lsusb.

When I connect the micro usb to a power block (5V, 3A the same one it ran with for 2 years) and then connect one of the 4 USB ports on the Tinkerboard to the linux laptop that is when the two entries show up in the lsusb output that I mention above.

Jason

Do you mean there is nothing more displayed by running lusb on Linux PC when you connect Tinker Board S to Linux PC via micro USB cable?
Then you powered up the board by connecting Tinker Board S to a power adapter via micro USB. After that, you connect the type A receptacle on Tinker Board S to the type A receptacle of Linux PC. You can see the following 2 more displayed by running lsusb on Linux PC? 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

This is strange. Could you let me know how you connect the type A on Tinker Board S to the type A on Linux PC? Or I misunderstood anything?

Leslie

You almost have it right.  I don't have a Type A Male to Type A male cable so I went Type A Male into the Tinkerboard and then Micro USB into what I believe is called a Lightning port on  the laptop.  I am picking up an adapter so I can go into the Type A port on the laptop.  I should have it sometime tomorrow.

Jason

I connected Type A on the laptop to Type A on the Tinkerbox and lsusb shows nothing. The Tinkerboard doesn't show up.

Jason

You have special type A to type A cable and there is nothing shown when it is connected, right?
I think this is expected because both side work as the host.
However, if you use type A to Lightning port cable,  the following 2 are shown on your laptop?. This is strange.
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Could you share the model of your laptop with us?
Thanks a lot!

Leslie
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#10
(Yesterday, 12:58 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-25-2020, 10:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-24-2020, 10:23 PM)jsunwalters Wrote:
(11-24-2020, 05:39 AM)leslie_yu Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 08:39 PM)jsunwalters Wrote: I have connected it to a LInux PC via the micro usb cable.  The lsusb command does not show the eMMC.

  The first two enties, Bus 004 and 003, show up when it is connected to the LInux PC.

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS495 Fingerprint Reader
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04ca:7053 Lite-On Technology Corp.
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0658:0200 Sigma Designs, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


Sorry I wasn't clear.

As I said, connecting the micro usb to the LInux PC nothing shows up on lsusb.

When I connect the micro usb to a power block (5V, 3A the same one it ran with for 2 years) and then connect one of the 4 USB ports on the Tinkerboard to the linux laptop that is when the two entries show up in the lsusb output that I mention above.

Jason

Do you mean there is nothing more displayed by running lusb on Linux PC when you connect Tinker Board S to Linux PC via micro USB cable?
Then you powered up the board by connecting Tinker Board S to a power adapter via micro USB. After that, you connect the type A receptacle on Tinker Board S to the type A receptacle of Linux PC. You can see the following 2 more displayed by running lsusb on Linux PC? 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

This is strange. Could you let me know how you connect the type A on Tinker Board S to the type A on Linux PC? Or I misunderstood anything?

Leslie

You almost have it right.  I don't have a Type A Male to Type A male cable so I went Type A Male into the Tinkerboard and then Micro USB into what I believe is called a Lightning port on  the laptop.  I am picking up an adapter so I can go into the Type A port on the laptop.  I should have it sometime tomorrow.

Jason

I connected Type A on the laptop to Type A on the Tinkerbox and lsusb shows nothing. The Tinkerboard doesn't show up.

Jason

You have special type A to type A cable and there is nothing shown when it is connected, right?
I think this is expected because both side work as the host.
However, if you use type A to Lightning port cable,  the following 2 are shown on your laptop?. This is strange.
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Could you share the model of your laptop with us?
Thanks a lot!

Leslie

You have all that correct.  The laptop is an HP Zbook 15 G3.

Jason
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